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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:30 pm    Post subject: 2014 World Cup Thread

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

BIGBALLER:

Just bet Brazil -1,-1.5 (-135)
The money line is basically an ATM at -310.
I'm going to push in my stack right before that game if its anywhere close,, don't want to now, (Injuries,protests,weather).
I heard Mandzukic is out due to red card in last qualifier game? hopefully not cumulative yellow cards, that would be bullshit.

One week out, let's get it going boys.
-gonna throw some beer money on El Salvador +1.5 tomorrow in Texas. I don't see Drogba and his old boys putting much effort, saving it for next week..

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Radamel Falcao ruled out of World Cup


Colombia's star striker Radamel Falcao is officially out of the 2014 World Cup as his team submitted their final 23-man squad without the injured forward on the list.

Coach Jose Pekerman made the announcement at a news conference on Monday from the team's training facility in Buenos Aires, Argentina, dealing a serious blow to their chances at the tournament.

Falcao's presence had been in doubt ever since he underwent knee surgery in January after a Coupe de France game with his club, Monaco. But Colombians had been hoping for a miracle recovery in time for the World Cup as Falcao posted photos of himself on social media taking nine-kilometre (six-mile) runs.

"We can say to all of Colombia that he did more than was within his power to play," said Pekerman. "He deserved the right for us to wait and keep the hope alive."

The 28-year-old said that as he lacks match fitness, "the smartest thing to do" is to stay on the sidelines. He said he still plans to travel to Brazil to cheer on his teammates.

"I had great hope to play but, well, one has to support the team from outside and wish it the best," Falcao said.

Falcao's nine goals in the South American qualifiers paved the way for Colombia's return to the World Cup for the first time since 1998. The team make their debut in Group C on June 14 in Belo Horizonte against Greece.

Colombia was a favorite to win the group, which includes Japan, Greece and Ivory Coast. .

Colombia's 23-man World Cup squad

David Ospina (Nice), Faryd Mondragon (Deportivo Cali), Camilo Vargas (Santa Fe); Camilo Zuniga (Napoli), Pablo Armero (Napoli), Cristian Zapata (AC Milan), Mario Yepes (Atalanta), Carlos Valdes (Philadelphia Union - on loan to San Lorenzo), Santiago Arias (PSV Eindhoven), Eder Alvarez-Balanta (River Plate); James Rodriguez (Monaco), Abel Aguilar (Toulouse), Carlos Sanchez (Elche), Fredy Guarin (Inter Milan), Juan Fernando Quintero (Porto), Aldo Ramirez (Morelia), Alexander Mejia (Atletico Nacional), Victor Ibarbo (Cagliari), Juan Guillermo Cuadrado (Fiorentina); Jackson Martinez (Porto), Teofilo Gutierrez (River Plate), Carlos Bacca (Sevilla), Adrian Ramos (Borussia Dortmund)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Warm-ups - Italy held by Luxembourg

European minnows Luxembourg embarrassed Italy, and denied them a first win in seven games, with a late equaliser in Wednesday's World Cup warm-up in Perugia.

Claudio Marchisio's ninth-minute goal had put the hosts in front and Italy should have extended their lead but were twice denied by the woodwork in the second half.

Maxine Chanot earned the visitors a 1-1 draw with five minutes remaining when he nodded past a helpless Gianluigi Buffon in the Italy goal.

Italy will now try to put the embarrassing result behind them before their opener against England.

Raheem Sterling and Antonio Valencia were sent off as England drew their ill-tempered warm-up against Ecuador in the Miami heat.

In the humid Floridian climate, Enner Valencia headed Ecuador in front after some sloppy defending by Chris Smalling and Luke Shaw.

Wayne Rooney equalised and Rickie Lambert brilliantly put England ahead, but Roy Hodgson had to settle for a 2-2 draw thanks to Michael Arroyo's long-range strike.

A fiery match spilled over towards the end when Sterling was dismissed for a wild challenge on Antonio Valencia, who was also given a straight red for grabbing Sterling by the throat in response.

Robin van Persie sparked fresh concerns over his fitness after playing just 45 minutes of Netherlands' laboured 2-0 win over stubborn Wales in Amsterdam.

The Manchester United striker, who had an injury-curtailed second half of the season, was withdrawn at half-time of Netherlands' final match before flying to Brazil for the World Cup.

Louis van Gaal's side won the game comfortably enough with goals from Arjen Robben and Jeremain Lens, but under-strength Wales proved worthy opponents and frustrated them for large spells.

Algeria beat Romania 2-1 in a match marred by widespread fan disorder.

The teams were taken off the field after 43 minutes with the score 1-1, and Algeria coach Vahid Halilhodzic went to the centre circle to broadcast an appeal for fans to stop throwing lit flares and bottles.

Referee Nikolaj Haeni of Switzerland brought players back after a 15-minute break to play the final two minutes of the first half, then immediately changed ends to start the second period.

When El Arabi Soudani scored the decisive goal in the 66th minute, around 15 fans ran on the pitch from three sides of the Stade de Geneve. Nabil Bentaleb had put Algeria ahead in the 21st minute, and Alexandru Chipciu leveled in the 28th.

Argentina took a while to get on track vs. Trinidad and Tobago but their attack looked sharp throughout as they eventually cruised to a 3-0 win.

Rodrigo Palacio, Javier Mascherano and Maxi Rodriguez all scored in the win. Lionel Messi, who had several near misses and a free kick hit the post, was very much at the center of everything that worked for Argentina.

It was a strong showing for Argentina, one of the World Cup favourites. The Argentines will open the tournament in Brazil on June 15 against Bosnia and Herzegovina, but first play Slovenia in a friendly on Saturday.

Northern Ireland proved a tough contest for another South American nation as it took two late goals from Chile to secure a 2-0 victory.

It was Chile's final pre-World Cup game, but they needed three key starters -- Barcelona's Alexis Sanchez, Eduardo Vargas and Mauricio Pinilla -- to come off the bench to help them break down Michael O'Neill's visiting squad.

As with Northern Ireland's 1-0 defeat in Uruguay last week, it was a performance O'Neill could take heart from -- not least after a pair of first-half free-kicks that might have given his side the lead.

The strength of Chile's bench eventually told, Sanchez's chipped through-ball teeing up Vargas for the headed opener 10 minutes from time.

Goals by Edinson Cavani and Christian Stuani lifted Uruguay past Slovenia 2-0.

With the exception of star Luis Suarez, who is recovering from knee surgery, Uruguay were at full strength for the match.

Cavani opened the scoring in the 36th minute with a strong header off a perfect pass from playmaker Diego Forlan. Forty minutes later, Stuani clinched the win after Cavani set him up for an easy shot into an unguarded net.

Didier Drogba and Gervinho each had a goal and an assist Ivory Coast's 2-1 victory over El Salvador in Texas.

Gervinho took a pass from Drogba for a goal in the ninth minute. In the 42nd minute, Gervinho pulled the El Salvador goalkeeper away from the net and passed across to Drogba for his goal.

El Salvador scored on Arturo Alvarez's penalty kick in the 75th minute after Kolo Abib Toure fouled El Salvador's Darwin Ceren in the area.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:46 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Ghanaian witch doctor claims he caused Cristiano Ronaldo’s knee injury
• Nana Kwaku Bonsam predicted forward would miss World Cup
• ‘This injury can never be cured by any medic’



Ghana’s most influential witch doctor has claimed he is responsible for the knee injury that is threatening Cristiano Ronaldo’s participation at the World Cup.

Nana Kwaku Bonsam – whose name translates literally as “Devil of Wednesday” – predicted in February that the Real Madrid forward would be forced to miss this summer’s tournament in Brazil with injury. A statement from the Portuguese F_U on Wednesday confirmed that Ronaldo is suffering from tendinosis in his left knee as well as nursing a muscle problem in his left thigh, which caused him to miss the 0-0 draw with Greece at the weekend.

Ghana are set to meet Portugal in their final match of Group G in Brasilia on 26 June and Bonsam claims to have conjured a special powder from his gods, mixed with several leaves and concoctions which have been placed around an image and caricature of the former Manchester United player.

“I know what Cristiano Ronaldo’s injury is about, I’m working on him,” Bonsam, who serves at the Kofioo Kofi shrine, said in an interview with the Kumasi-based Angel FM.

“I am very serious about it. Last week, I went around looking for four dogs and I got them to be used in manufacturing a special spirit called Kahwiri Kapam.

“I said it four months ago that I will work on Cristiano Ronaldo seriously and rule him out of the World up or at least prevent him from playing against Ghana and the best thing I can do is to keep him out though injury.

“This injury can never be cured by any medic, they can never see what is causing the injury because it is spiritual. Today, it is his knee, tomorrow it is his thigh, next day it is something else.”

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

App puts action of the World Cup in your hands — including noisemakers

Editor’s note: There are more than 1 million apps available for download from Apple's App Store and a similar number of Android apps available on Google Play. Staff writer Brian Nordli weighs in on one of the applications he deems worthy of being the Sun’s App of the Week.

Phone App: Brazil W. Cup 2014

Where it’s found: Apple’s App Store

Cost: Free

What it is: The 2014 World Cup is almost here, and with it will be a flurry of soccer — or futbol — matches that will determine the world’s greatest soccer team.

With games played in Brazil from morning to late afternoon, it can be tough to keep up with the action of your favorite teams. That’s where the Brazil W. Cup 2014 app comes in. The app has an easy-to-use interface that tracks group stage records, preliminary matches and knockout matches in three separate tabs.

For each matchup, users can see where the game is played, learn about the stadium and, to make things interesting, predict the score and winner. Users can also read up on the latest news for each team from Algeria to the United States to stay informed.

For added fun — or annoyance for the people around you — the app has a digital form of the Caxirola noisemaker (pronounced ka-shee-role-a). The shaker is Brazil’s version of South Africa’s vuvuzela horn.

With a tap or shake, your phone can emit the rattling sound of the banned Brazilian noisemaker while you keep up with all the World Cup action on the app.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Bargains on USA’s World Cup odds not found in Vegas
Patriotic bettors drive down price

Odds on the U.S. soccer team winning the World Cup can be found as high as 300-to-1 in the European betting market. Yet, for weeks this spring, MGM Resorts, Nevada’s largest sports book operator, had the U.S. listed at 10-to-1 – and was taking plenty of money on the Americans.

“We took more money on the U.S. at 10-to-1 than we did at any other price,” said Jeff Stoneback, MGM assistant manager.

Patriotism is awesome.

Team USA does not have a 1-in-10 chance of winning the World Cup. Everyone knows it, including the MGM book managers. But gauging just how big the World Cup betting market will be in Vegas has been difficult. And the early action was extremely lopsided toward the U.S.

Three months before the tournament, the liability MGM was facing on the U.S. was four times the amount of overall money that was in the pool, said Jay Rood, vice president of MGM Race and Sports.

“This is still relatively new territory in terms of what I can anticipate the equity is going to be in our pool,” Rood told The Linemakers on Sporting News. “And it’s not getting to what I thought we were going to get on it. That’s why we went so short on (the U.S.).”

Money eventually showed up on Germany and favored Brazil, allowing Rood to move the U.S.’s odds back to 50-to-1 two weeks ago. Still, the book’s liability on the U.S. remains “huge,” he said, thanks to early action when odds were as high as 100-to-1.

MGM wasn’t alone in its drastic downward adjustment on the U.S. Todd Fuhrman, former sports book analyst at Caesars who now covers the industry for Don Best and Fox Sports, tweeted on May 6 about “disparity on odds” around Vegas, with Caesars listing the U.S. at 7-to-1 and the LVH SuperBook at 80-1 (the LVH is now at 100-to-1 on the U.S.).

As of last week, the U.S. had attracted the second most World Cup futures bets at MGM, behind only Germany. There was a significant gap between the U.S. and No. 3 Argentina. The U.S. was sixth in total money wagered, garnering about eight percent of the futures pool. The five teams that have had more money wagered on them than the U.S. — Brazil, Germany, Argentina, Spain and Italy — all have odds in the single digits.

World Cup match lines: USA a dog vs. Ghana

Local bookmakers experience similar issues on their home teams and adjust their odds accordingly, Rood believes.

“I guarantee in Philly you’re laying a point, a point and a half more (when betting the Eagles) with the guy on the corner than what Danny Sheridan or whoever is putting in the paper,” said Rood. “It never fails. Sheridan will put out odds in the USA Today and have the U.S. at 1,000-to-1. Then people get here, and we’re 50-to-1. What Danny’s putting out is a probability chart, not a futures pool. A futures pool is to manage the liability of the money for the bookmaker. I can make a probability chart and probably would have USA somewhere around 1000-to-1.”

As of May 20 at William Hill, the U.K.’s largest sports book, England’s World Cup team garnered only 7.6 percent of stakes and had fallen to its longest odds of 33-to-1 in the weeks leading up to the tournament. But the betting pool there is much, much larger than in Nevada.

William Hill estimates it alone will take £200 million (US$335 million) on over 17 million bets on the World Cup. The book predicts that betting will double on days that England is in action. It expects bets-per-minute to peak at 7,237 on the day of the World Cup Final.

Brazil was the most popular bet at William Hill with 27.64 percent of stakes, followed by Germany (14.07 percent) and Spain (13.23 percent). Algeria, with only .03 percent of bets, was the least popular.

At Labrokes, another U.K.-based bookmaker, the U.S. is at the bottom of the popularity meter.

“As for the USA, they are 200-to-1 and currently represent the team with the least support in the entire book," a Labrokes spokesperson said in an email to The Linemakers. "(There even has been) more money for Iran at 1000-to-1, as presumably if people want to back an outsider, they may as well go for the longest of long shots.”

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Odds on the U.S. soccer team winning the World Cup can be found as high as 300-to-1 in the European betting market. Yet, for weeks this spring, MGM Resorts, Nevada’s largest sports book operator, had the U.S. listed at 10-to-1 – and was taking plenty of money on the Americans.

“We took more money on the U.S. at 10-to-1 than we did at any other price,” said Jeff Stoneback, MGM assistant manager.

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wow, lots of idiots out there throwing money out the window but vegas books that had those type of odds really hit rock bottom in gouging their customers.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

2014 World Cup Preview Group F: Argentina Will Dominate, But Bosnia-Herzegovina Celebrates Births With Gunfire

by Matt Rudnitsky

The 2014 FIFA World Cup is coming, to a country not so near to you, because you aren’t the center of the world, silly American.

Here’s our preview for GROUP F, which must stand for “Argentina will Fart on its inferior competition.”

ODDS TO ADVANCE
Argentina (-2381): 93%

Bosnia-Herzegovina (-111): 51%

Nigeria (+128): 43%

Iran (+644): 13%

Wait, Bosnia’s good?
Unless you know international soccer well, Bosnia’s chances should force you to spit out whatever your currently drinking, or choke on your saliva if you are not currently drinking.

They’re ranked 15th in ESPN’s Soccer Power Index, an imperfect system, but a decent one that is much better than FIFA’s (where Bosnia is 25th). For the record, USA is 21st in SPI and 14th in FIFA. Anything that ranks us lower is probably better. (Yes, I am a hater of my own country’s team. We suck, until further notice.)

If you’re looking for players you might recognize, you’ll see Edin Džeko of Manchester City. There are other good players, of course, but you can’t tell them apart, silly American, because, seriously, almost all of their names end in “ic.” They have an “ic,” actually 18 of them, but they can’t scratch them or they wouldn’t have a team.

How the hell did Iran make it?
They beat South Korea twice, once in South Korea! Both were 1-0 wins.

Almost their entire team plays in Iran, which seems like a bad sign. They have a guy who plays in the MLS (Steven Beitashour). And one who plays for Fulham (Ashkan Dejagah). He moved to Germany from Iran when he was one and is a German citizen.

Javad Nekounam is their captain and rock.

Nigeria is filled with incredible names that you can’t recognize or pronounce.

Players to Watch:
Džeko.

Some guy named Lionel Messi.

Wikipedia:

“Commonly ranked as the best player in the world and rated by some commentators, coaches and players as the greatest footballer of all time, Messi is the first football player in history to win four FIFA/Ballons d’Or, all of which he won consecutively, as well as the first to win three European Golden Shoe awards. With Barcelona, Messi has won six La Ligas, two Copas del Rey, five Supercopas de España, three UEFA Champions Leagues, two UEFA Super Cups and two Club World Cups.
He’s OK. Though the consensus seems to be that Cristiano Ronaldo currently has a leg up on him. We’ll see.

FIFA 14 Rating: 94. Deadly.

Despite a remarkable career, Messi hasn’t advanced past the quarterfinals of a World Cup, and if that continues, Skip Bayless will move to Argentina, talk about his un-clutchness everyday and make billions, in a very unstable economy. The Argentines have the second-best odds to win the World Cup, one spot behind host Brazil, one ahead of Germany.

Also, everyone else on Argentinia: namely, Javier Mascherano, Gonzalo Higuain, Lionel Messi and Sergio Aguero.

Fun Country Factoids!
Argentina:

- Good luck with those investments!

“Inflation Rate in Argentina averaged 205.68 Percent from 1944 until 2013, reaching an all time high of 20262.80 Percent in March of 1990…”
- Soccer isn’t the national sport of Argentina. That’s “pato,” a polo/basketball hybrid that means “duck.” They used to play with a duck instead of a ball.

- An infamous Argentine killer was nicknamed, “The Big-Eared Midget.”



I wonder why?

Born in 1896, he set his sights on two career paths at a young age: arson and killing. By the time of his death in 1944 he had racked up quite a list of crimes, including the murder of four children, attempted murder of seven others, and the arson of several buildings.

…His formative years were spent killing birds and cats, playing with fire, avoiding school, and generally making a nuisance of himself. His first recorded crime came at the age of seven, when he brutally beat up a two-year-old boy before tossing him into a ditch…

A few years down the line, and perhaps a little harshly, the curious Godino received a two-year jail sentence for compulsive masturbation, an illegal activity at the time, after his mother reported his antics to the police. Soon after this embarrassment, the killings began…

From 1935 onwards, he received no visitors and died in prison under unexplained circumstances.
Bosnia:

- “People drink hard liquor (Rakija) to start the day.”

- “Births and Weddings are still celebrated with ‘celebratory gunfire’.”

- It is the birthplace of Mirza Teletović, Human Contradiction who shot 39% on 3-pointers this year, but also airballed three straight shots once. The Bosnian contingent still cheered, thus they must be an optimistic bunch.

Nigeria:

- “Nigeria has the highest number of musicians in the world.”

- “Females from Imo state Nigeria have more hair on their chest than their males.”

- “Ijebu people fart all the time. Even while having sex.”

Or so this random website says.

Iran:

- I have a good friend whose family is from Iran. His name is Amin. Like, “a mean boy,” as he explains to confused people. He is afraid to return there as an adult, because they might force him into the Army.

Picks
1. Argentina
2. Nigeria
3. Bosnia-Herzegovina
4. Iran

Nos. 1 and 4 are easy. Book it!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Absentee XI: Injured stars out of Brazil - ESPN FC
POSTED BY MARTIN LAURENCE, WHOSCORED.COM


Somewhat surprisingly, it's the potential absentees from the World Cup who seem to be taking the limelight right now. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain recently suffered an injury that could see him out of action during the tournament, while Franck Ribery is the latest high-profile star certain to miss out.

Meanwhile, the likes of Cristiano Ronaldo, Luis Suarez and Diego Costa are all entering the tournament with injury problems. Perhaps then Antonio Valencia's overexuberant reaction to a poorly timed Raheem Sterling tackle in the recent friendly between England and Ecuador was a little more understandable. Italy's Riccardo Montolivo and Mexico's Luis Montes have both broken bones in recent warm-up matches, after all.

Here, WhoScored.com looks at some of the biggest stars who have missed out on their chance to play at the 2014 World Cup because of injury.

The most notable goalkeeper absent through injury is Barcelona's Victor Valdes, though the 32-year-old has played second fiddle to Spain skipper Iker Casillas for his entire international career. There's little doubt that the Barca man's hopes would have risen since his compatriot fell out of favour at Real Madrid, and with a WhoScored.com rating of 6.93 in La Liga this season, Valdes statistically outperformed understudies Pepe Reina and David De Gea.

There are probably fewer defenders set to be absent through injury than any other position, but full-backs Bryan Oviedo (7.38) and Gregory van der Wiel (7.13) certainly stand out. You have to look to the likes of Middlesbrough's Rhys Williams (7.03) to find a sidelined centre-back, with the Australian missing out through injury for the second successive World Cup. His absence is certainly a loss to the Socceroos, given his capability of playing across a number of positions, with eight of his 22 league starts coming at right-back last season.

Oviedo would have hoped to test himself against England for Costa Rica after an impressive if short run in the Everton team before suffering a leg break. He scored twice and picked up two assists in just eight league starts for the Toffees, while his crossing, key passes and tackling stats were also impressive. Van der Wiel, meanwhile, proved an equally creative outlet from the back for PSG, particularly in the Champions League -- registering four assists in just six appearances in the tournament.

When it comes to midfielders, however, there's a plethora of talent sidelined. So much so that the recently crocked Montolivo doesn't even make our injured XI, despite an impressive rating of 7.28. Lars Bender (7.32) was cut from the Germany squad due to a thigh problem, having made the second-most tackles per game in the Bundesliga last season (3.7). Elsewhere in Germany's top tier, Thiago Alcantara (7.84) suffered a knee injury just as he was beginning to shine for champions Bayern Munich. The Spaniard averaged four dribbles per game in the league and completed 91.6 percent of his pass attempts.


Perhaps the biggest loss in this area, however, could be that of Kevin Strootman for the Netherlands. Manchester United-bound Louis van Gaal was beginning to mould his side around the Roma man, who made the step up in standard to Serie A football with consummate ease to earn a WhoScored.com rating of 7.38. The Dutchman scored five goals and picked up six assists, while also registering a team high of 3.3 tackles per game. He's your archetypal box-to-box midfielder.

On the flanks, England's options were certainly affected due to an injury to Theo Walcott (7.14), while a longstanding back problem has forced Didier Deschamps to cut star man Franck Ribery from his squad. The former was only fit enough to make 13 league appearances for Arsenal last season, but in contributing to nine goals (five goals, four assists) he was in impressive form.

Ribery, meanwhile, is the top-rated player in our injured XI (8.24), having garnered the highest average in Germany's top tier despite a fragmented campaign due to injury. In just 22 league appearances, of which only 18 were starts, the French flyer registered double figures for both goals and assists (10 apiece) and completed the most dribbles per game (5.5)

Up front, Christian Benteke's dreams of leading an emerging Belgium side through the tournament were curtailed by an Achilles tendon rupture earlier in the year. The Villa man was struggling to recreate the form of his debut season at the club, but had still scored 10 goals in 24 league starts, as well as winning a league high of 8.8 aerial duels per game to earn a WhoScored.com rating of 7.25.

Saving the biggest name for last, Colombia will be without Monaco's Radamel Falcao. But although they will be a less intimidating prospect without El Tigre, the quality in their attacking ranks should still be feared. Falcao, nevertheless, is Colombia's all-time top scorer and the face of the national side. He earned a relatively modest rating of 6.92 from WhoScored.com last season, having not set Ligue 1 alight as he might have liked, despite notching nine times in just 16 league starts.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

World Cup bettors get ball rolling at sports books

Station Casinos sports books have posted future odds, game lines and prop bets for this year’s FIFA World Cup. Bookmakers will spend the final few days before the tournament, which starts Thursday in Brazil, supplementing the betting board with more wagers.

“It’s going to end up in a packet like you see for that big football game in February, as far as betting goes,” said Chuck Esposito, Sunset Station sports book director. “All those different options show how popular and how much growth we’ve seen in soccer.”

Esposito surely wasn’t comparing his first World Cup in the betting industry more than 20 years ago to the Super Bowl.

The tournament has grown tremendously in betting circles over the past two decades. Nowadays, casinos prepare for it as one of the biggest gambling events on the calendar every fourth year.

Every sports book in town will post an expansive wagering menu, and for its monthlong duration, the World Cup will serve as sports books’ biggest draw.

“Both the handle and interest will be huge,” Esposito said. “You look at the crowds that we saw for the last World Cup four years ago, and it was amazing and highly successful.”

That success came with the built-in disadvantage of a nine-hour time difference between Las Vegas and South Africa, the 2010 host country. Most games began at 4 and 6 a.m., hardly ideal times for casual gamblers to cast soccer bets.

But the Brazilian sites have only a three- or four-hour time difference from Las Vegas, meaning games will start at a more manageable hour, many at noon or 3 p.m.

“Everyone knows around the world just how diehard soccer fans are,” Esposito said. “It’s the same thing in all of our race and sports books. They’re loud, emotional and into it. It’s fun and contagious throughout the rest of the casino when you hear the roars from the sports book.”

OUR PICKS

Argentina (9-to-2 odds):No country is more assured to get out of the preliminary round than Argentina, which is a tournament-high minus-600 (risking $6 to win $1) to win its group. With the world’s best player in Lionel Messi and an ideal counterpart in Sergio Aguero, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see the Argentines roll from there. Brazil remains the only team that sports books would favor over Argentina, and the line wouldn’t be as lopsided as perceived.

England (30-to-1 odds):Sports books across the valley have raised England’s odds over the past few months. Pessimism stemming from woes during qualifying made bettors stay away from England and potentially created value at the hiked price. Getting such a lucrative payout with a country rostering as much young talent as England is promising.

Chile (50-to-1 odds):For the obligatory long shot. Chile is as far as we’re willing to stretch. Twelve teams are listed ahead of Chile at the Superbook, but it’s No. 5 in the world according to the Soccer Power Index metric. All four previous World Cups in South America ended with a country from the home continent victorious. Why couldn’t it be the team no one is talking about this year?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Six cracking World Cup 2014 bets that will (possibly) make you rich

With the World Cup on our doorstep, many of us will be looking to cash in on football’s greatest show and hope to hit the metaphorical jackpot with some betting.

So, inspired by Ray Winstone’s head, I have taken it upon myself to offer up some advice to those of you looking for a fat World Cup profit.

1) Top Scorer

It is hard to look past Neymar (10/1) or his Brazilian compatriot Fred (20/1) for top scorer. In an attacking team, and respective Player of the Tournament and Top Scorer in last year’s confederations cup, one can expect this Brazilian duo to be amongst the goals. For an alternative choice, it may be worth considering Edin Dzeko (66/1) at slightly longer odds. Although Bosnia will struggle to reach the latter stages of the tournament, they find themselves in a favourable group – and with Dzeko as the main focal point of the team, you can expect him to make an impact.

2) Group Game Match Bets

It wouldn’t be a World Cup if there weren’t some proper shocks along the way, and if you spot them you could be in the money. Italy have failed to beat Luxembourg in a pre-World Cup friendly, and if you think Costa Rica could pick up a similar result against them you can get (4/1) odds for a draw, and (8/1) odds for a Costa Rica win. (11/2) for a Honduras victory over Switzerland are also attractive odds.

3) Stage of Elimination

Bosnia and Herzegovina may not be contenders in their World Cup debut this year, but considering their deceptively strong squad and their relatively open group their (11/2) odds to reach the Quarter-Final do not seem to be unreasonable.

Equally, Belgium unquestionably possess one of the strongest teams on paper in the whole tournament. Their (13/2) odds to reach the semi-finals do not seem like bad odds at all.
Six cracking World Cup 2014 bets that will (possibly) make you richDanny Welbeck is good value to be England’s top scorer (Picture: Getty Images)

4) Group Tri-Cast

Although always a risky bet, the group tri-casts offer some very attractive odds, particularly in the more open groups. Colombia/Japan/Greece (10/1) in Group C and France/Switzerland/Honduras (18/1) in Group E seem to be particularly good bets.

5) England’s Top Scorer

Danny Welbeck (9/1) seems to be a fantastic price. Despite his critics, Welbeck performs well on the international stage, and one would expect him to play most games this summer. At his most effective, Welbeck is a danger to most teams, and can certainly cause the poor defences of Uruguay and Costa Rica some serious trouble with his pace.

6) Outright Winner

Although many of you will be going with the favourites (Brazil and Argentina), both France (20/1) and Portugal (25/1) are priced very reasonably, especially when you consider France’s more favourable group drawing, and young talented squad.

However, the patriots amongst you may even want to get behind the 3 Lions and have a bet on England (28/1) – and with odds that long, maybe it wouldn’t be such a bad idea to put your faith in Roy’s boys!

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:31 pm    Post subject: MY Picks

I actually surprised myself with this, but in my pool at work I had Brazil winning this over Argentina in the final...I would feel sorry for the poor bastard who had to referee that game..lmao...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

World Cup 101

The 2014 World Cup opens Thursday with host Brazil playing Croatia in Sao Paulo.

During the first two weeks, every team will play three games within its group. When round-robin play concludes, the top two teams in each group move on to a knock-out, win-or-go-home competition starting June 28.

The winner will raise the gold trophy July 13 in Rio de Janiero.

Here’s a look at the groups (with FIFA world rankings and odds to win the World Cup listed for each team):

GROUP A

Playing in front of its own fans, Brazil is expected to easily advance, leaving Croatia, Mexico and Cameroon fighting for the other spot in the second round.

■ BRAZIL (10 world ranking, 5-2 odds) — Brazil is one of the favorites to go all the way to the final so it’s no surprise that few expect the hosts to face difficulties in the group stage.

The five-time champions have reached the second round every time since 1970, and after escaping some more traditional opponents in the draw, it should be able to avoid a major surprise in its group this time. Brazil has a winning record against all of its first-round opponents.

The squad led by Neymar and coach Luiz Felipe Scolari has won 13 of its last 14 matches.

Boosted by its boisterous fans and confident following the Confederations Cup victory last year, Brazil will be looking to do better than it did at the last two World Cups, when it was eliminated in the quarterfinals.

■ MEXICO (20, 100-1) — After barely qualifying, Mexico hopes to finally get past the second round in Brazil. The Latin Americans were eliminated in the round of 16 in the last five World Cups, by Argentina the last two times. At least this time there is no chance the Mexicans will play their nemesis right away, as the Argentines are in a different side of the bracket.

Mexico has reached the quarterfinals only twice, at home in 1970 and 1986.

Javier “Chicharito” Hernandez is Mexico’s biggest star, but his place as a starter in Brazil is not guaranteed because of his lack of minutes at Manchester United.

El Tri will be hampered by late injuries to midfielders Juan Carlos Medina and Luis Montes, who broke his right leg in a match against Ecuador.

■ CAMEROON (51, 1,000-1) — After reconsidering a decision to retire, Samuel Eto’o will be back at the World Cup carrying Cameroon’s hopes of a surprising performance in Brazil.

The 33-year-old striker has been playing well with Chelsea, and his experience of three World Cups will be key for the Indomitable Lions, who had some help qualifying after a loss to Togo was overturned because of an ineligible player.

Cameroon hasn’t advanced past the group stage since 1990, when it became the first African team to reach the quarterfinals.

■ CROATIA (16, 150-1) — Croatia, back at the World Cup after not qualifying in 2010, already knows it won’t be at full strength for the difficult opener against Brazil.

Coach Niko Kovac won’t have forward Mario Mandzukic, who was red-carded in a decisive qualifier against Iceland. The suspension carried over from qualifying, so he will have to sit out against the hosts. Kovac also knows he will be without defender Josip Simunic, who was banned for 10 games by FIFA for leading fans in a pro-Nazi chant after the Iceland match in Zagreb.

Midfielder Niko Kranjcar was ruled out of the World Cup with a hamstring injury that will sideline him for up to six weeks.

GROUP B

Spain’s bid to repeat as champion has the unenviable task of beginning in a World Cup group with the Netherlands, Chile and Australia. With Brazil a potential opponent in the round of 16, no team can afford a poor start in Group B.

■ SPAIN (1, 13-2) — Spain has not lost a step as it vies to win a fourth straight major tournament with a core squad that is likely playing its final World Cup.

Spain’s schedule is perhaps the toughest, as it follows up its match against the Netherlands by playing Chile on June 18 at the Maracana Stadium in Rio de Janeiro.

“We’ll have to be ready from Day One,” coach Vicente del Bosque said after the draw. “With this selection of rivals, we cannot afford to let our concentration slip one bit. The Netherlands will demand our best.”

Spain finishes group play against Australia, where anything but a victory would be a shock.

■ NETHERLANDS (9, 25-1) — Now led by coach Louis van Gaal, the Netherlands is always a contender but goes into the World Cup on the heels of flopping at Euro 2012.

The Dutch went unbeaten in World Cup qualifying, winning nine of their 10 games after Bert van Marwijk’s exit following the poor performance in Poland and Ukraine.

Van Gaal, who will be replaced by Guus Hiddink after the tournament, has rebuilt the team to play more attractive attacking football.

Robin van Persie and Arjen Robben continue to spark the Oranje, but Van Persie must seize the opportunity after the Manchester United striker has scored only once at the last two major tournaments, the 2010 World Cup and Euro 2012.

■ CHILE (15, 50-1) — Chile is stronger and more dangerous than four years ago, when it also met Spain in group play before being eliminated by Brazil in the last 16.

This time, the South Americans are lurking, waiting to take advantage of any slip-up by either Spain or the Netherlands.

Juventus midfielder Arturo Vidal and Barcelona forward Alexis Sanchez will be the key players for Chile, which has steadied under coach Jorge Sampaoli since he took over two years ago.

■ AUSTRALIA (59, 1,000-1) — All three group contenders know victory against Australia will be crucial to advancing. Australia is well aware, too.

“All of the pressure is on our rivals, they are under pressure to win, and we’re not going to make it easy for them,” coach Ange Postecoglou said. “We know it’s very difficult for us to advance. Hopefully we can surprise them.”

Australia won one of its group games in South Africa four years ago, but will find it difficult to repeat that feat with an inexperienced squad that is being groomed for the 2018 World Cup in Russia.

GROUP C

Group C has a favorite, Colombia, though injury knocked out its star player. If the South Americans can overcome that, that leaves Greece, Japan and Ivory Coast to fight for the group’s other spot.

■ COLOMBIA (4, 30-1) — After the draw in December, Colombia was made an early favorite to advance from Group C. But that was before Colombia striker Radamel Falcao damaged ligaments in his left knee in a French Cup game against an amateur team.

The “Coffee Growers” from Colombia rolled through qualifying, even routing Uruguay 4-0 on their way to earning 30 points from 16 matches.

Under Argentine coach Pekerman, Colombia has blossomed, rising from 35th in the world rankings to the top five and its first World Cup in 16 years.

■ GREECE (12, 250-1) — Greece coach Fernando Santos will step down after the World Cup, but says he’s glad to help lift the country’s spirits after it endured four years of severe financial crisis.

“The Greeks have been so warm to me, so welcoming. It feels great to give them some joy and hope that things will get better,” the Portuguese coach said.

Santos has stuck with striker Kostas Mitroglou despite his troubled move to Premier League club Fulham but had to drop defender Kyriakos Papadopoulos, who has missed matches at Schalke for 13 months due to a knee injury.

Captain Giorgos Karagounis remains motivator-in-chief at age 37, playing in eight qualifiers and both playoffs to reach a record 132 appearances for the national team.

■ JAPAN (48, 150-1) — Japan will be looking for Keisuke Honda to provide a spark in Brazil, but the bleach-haired forward has had an unsettling time at AC Milan since joining this year from CSKA Moscow.

Honda scored an injury-time penalty against Australia to make Japan the first team to qualify for this year’s tournament, leading coach Alberto Zaccheroni to promise that his team was ready to “surprise the world.”

But Japan’s euphoria was tempered by a friendly against Cyprus, in which the hosts only prevailed with a 1-0 win.

“Winning by one goal is definitely not enough,” Manchester United midfielder Shinji Kagawa said. “We must train hard to improve.”

■ IVORY COAST (17, 150-1) — Didier Drogba remains at the center of Ivory Coast’s hopes, despite turning 36 last month.

The Ivorians qualified comfortably under French coach Sabri Lamouchi, and were further relieved to avoid a tough draw this time around.

They faced Argentina and the Netherlands in 2006, and Brazil and Portugal at the last World Cup — finishing third both times. If Ivory Coast makes it through this year, there will be no let-up in the round of 16 with the team likely to face a former World Cup winner in either Italy, England or Uruguay.

“That’s what I want, for the Elephants to take on tough opponents,” Lamouchi said. “We want to raise our standards, our concentration, our determination. ... We are raising our game.”

GROUP D

With three former champions in Italy, England and Uruguay, plus unpredictable Costa Rica, Group D could be the World Cup’s toughest.

No other group has more than one past champion in it, while Italy (1934, 1938, 1982, 2006), Uruguay (1930, 1950) and England (1966) have won a combined seven titles. Uruguay and Italy alone combined to win the first four World Cups from 1930 to 1950.

■ ITALY (7, 20-1) — Italy’s intentions will likely depend on the wavering ways of talented forward Mario Balotelli, whose mood swings often get him into trouble both on and off the field.

But Balotelli averages about a goal every two matches in Serie A and with the national team, and nobody seems to have a better handle on him than Italy coach Cesare Prandelli. If the Azzurri are going to match host Brazil with their record-tying fifth title, Balotelli will have to both behave and perform at his best.

■ URUGUAY (6, 25-1) — Few teams can match Uruguay’s strength at forward, with Luis Suarez and Edinson Cavani leading the way and veteran Diego Forlan a strong substitute.

Suarez has been one of the main reasons behind Liverpool’s resurgence in the English Premier League, and Cavani has been a scoring machine with Napoli and Paris Saint-Germain in recent seasons. Forlan was named the best player of the 2010 World Cup and shared the tournament scoring lead with five goals, although he’ll be 35 for this year’s edition and joined Japanese club Cerezo Osaka in February, signaling that his top-level career may be finished.

■ ENGLAND (13, 30-1) — When Football Association chairman Greg Dyke responded to the December draw with a throat-slitting action that was caught on camera, it summed up England’s fears.

The worry in football’s home country is that England won’t even advance from such a tough group. England hasn’t gotten past the quarterfinals in its last four World Cups, and star player Wayne Rooney failed to score in the last two tournaments. Making matters worse, Rooney is coming off a difficult season with Manchester United.

■ COSTA RICA (31, 1,000-1) — Costa Rica would like nothing more than to repeat its surprise effort from its World Cup debut in 1990, when it beat Sweden and Scotland to reach the knockout round under experienced coach Bora Milutinovic.

The key to this squad is its defense, as evidenced by conceding only seven goals in 10 matches of the final qualifying phase.

PSV Eindhoven forward Bryan Ruiz is the team’s creative spark and perhaps its best-known player after his spell at Premier League club Fulham.

GROUP E

France will head to the World Cup as the favorite in Group E despite strong competition from a well-organized Switzerland. Ecuador and Honduras are unlikely to challenge for group supremacy. Winning the group is crucial, however, to avoid a likely meeting with Argentina in the second round.

■ FRANCE (19, 25-1) — France coach Didier Deschamps is reluctant to talk up his team’s chances at the World Cup because he still thinks his players lack consistency.

The traumatic exit from the last World Cup — where the players went on strike and failed to even win a game — is still etched in their memories.

“What’s a successful World Cup? It’s hard to answer, but you know just as well as me what a failed World Cup is,” said Deschamps, who was captain when France won the 1998 World Cup and the 2000 European Championship. “We can’t count ourselves among the favorites because there are teams who have more experience, whose results over the past four or five years are much better than ours.”

The way France qualified through the playoffs sums up the inconsistency. France trailed Ukraine 2-0 after a pitiful performance in the first leg in Kiev, only to turn the situation around in spectacular style with a 3-0 win.

“We have a competitive team capable of doing great things but also capable of alternating with much less good things,” Deschamps said. “We’ll find out the truth in our first match.”

■ SWITZERLAND (8, 100-1) — Switzerland coach Ottmar Hitzfeld is happy for France to have the pressure of being group favorite.

The Swiss and French will meet June 20 in Salvador in a match that is likely to decide the Group E winner — and possibly avoiding Argentina in the second round.

“We have a mature team now. I can say that it’s become ‘adult,’ it’s grown up. We had a superb qualifying campaign, we didn’t lose a single game and we’ve developed a great team spirit,” Hitzfeld told RMC radio. “I hope to beat France so that we can finish first. But beating France will be an enormous surprise because, for me, France remains the group favorite.”

So was European champion Spain, however, when it faced Switzerland in their opening group game at the last World Cup. With Hitzfeld in charge, Switzerland won 1-0 — Spain’s last defeat in a tournament.

■ ECUADOR (23, 150-1) — Ecuador could well line up with two Valencias on the field.

Ecuador’s best-known player is Manchester United winger Antonio Valencia. But the less illustrious Enner Valencia — who is no relation — has made a late push for a starting place in the team two years after his first call up.

He contributed a goal and an assist, as well as winning a penalty, as Ecuador came back from 3-0 down to beat Australia 4-3 in a friendly last month.

“I’m not sure if I was expecting it,” Enner Valencia said. “I need to keep focusing on my job, though, which is to perform well for the benefit of the team. That’s the only way I’m going to earn a place at the World Cup.”

He has shown his goal touch at club level, too, scoring 10 times in 14 league games for Mexican side Pachuca.

■ HONDURAS (41, 1,000-1) — After missing the last World Cup because of injury, Honduras striker Carlos Costly should finally get to emulate his father.

Allan Costly was part of the Honduran team that made history by qualifying for its first World Cup in 1982. A tough-tackling, rugged center back, he made 41 international appearances, scoring twice, and was the mainstay in defense.

Carlos, 31, is better at the other end of the field, scoring 30 goals in 68 international appearances. He would have played four years ago in South Africa if not for injury.

“He was eager to follow my achievements in playing at a World Cup, but unfortunately that problem at the last minute prevented him from doing so,” Allan Costly said. “I tell him to keep giving everything, but that if he wants to emulate me he should be careful and avoid hefty challenges.”

GROUP F

Barring a major upset at the World Cup, Argentina will finish at the top of Group F and let the other three teams compete for second place.

■ ARGENTINA (3, 4-1) — Lionel Messi, Gonzalo Higuain, Angel Di Maria and Sergio Aguero — Argentina coach Alejandro Sabella has more attacking talent than he can fit into the lineup.

By comparison, the defense doesn’t look quite as impressive.

Still, concerns about Argentina’s vulnerability in the back ought not be exaggerated. The team conceded only 15 goals in 16 qualifying matches.

■ NIGERIA (36, 250-1) — This is Nigeria’s fifth World Cup and the fourth time it has been put in the same group as Argentina.

The South Americans have won each encounter so far by a single goal, including a 1-0 victory in 2010. Argentina also came out ahead when the two nations met in the 2008 Olympic final.

■ BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA (21, 150-1) — Of the 32 countries in the tournament, only Bosnia is making its first World Cup appearance.

Coach Safet Susic has seen World Cup action, though. As a player he participated in the 1982 and 1990 tournaments for Yugoslavia.

Manchester City striker Edin Dzeko accounted for one-third of Bosnia’s 30 goals in qualifying. Only Robin van Persie of the Netherlands scored more goals in the European qualifying groups with 11.

■ IRAN (45, 1,000-1) — Iran isn’t likely to rattle its opponents with technical brilliance, but watch out for set pieces. Of the 30 goals the Iranians scored in qualifying, nine came on corner kicks or free kicks.

GROUP G

Germany will have two of its former coaches trying to prevent it from winning Group G at the World Cup. By adding Berti Vogts to his United States coaching staff, Jurgen Klinsmann now has the last coach to win a title with Germany by his side.

Also, Cristiano Ronaldo and his teammates may experience some “home” feeling when Portugal returns to its former colony. And half-brothers Kevin-Prince Boateng and Jerome Boateng will renew their World Cup rivalry on opposing sides when Ghana takes on Germany.

■ GERMANY (2, 5-1) — Germany is always among the highest-ranked teams in the world but the last of its three World Cup titles came in 1990 and the last at a major tournament was the 1996 European Championship.

Germany has a winning record against all three group opponents — the United States (six wins, three losses), Portugal (nine wins, five draws, three losses) and Ghana (two wins).

Germany has beaten Portugal in their last three meetings, twice at European Championships and in the match for third place at the 2006 World Cup. The Germans beat Ghana in their group match at the 2010 World Cup and also defeated the United States in the quarterfinals of the 2002 tournament.

■ GHANA (37, 150-1) — Ghana reached the quarterfinals four years ago — beating the United States in the process. Ghana also knocked out the Americans in its only other World Cup appearance in 2006.

The Boateng brothers are likely to face each other again, just as they did four years ago when Germany edged Ghana 1-0 in South Africa.

Raised by different mothers in Germany, the brothers play in the Bundesliga. Jerome is a defender at Bayern Munich and Kevin-Prince an attacking midfielder with Schalke.

■ UNITED STATES (13, 100-1) — By bringing Berti Vogts into his staff, Jurgen Klinsmann has recruited the coach who guided Germany to its last major title at Euro 1996, when Klinsmann still played for Germany.

But that’s not all.

It can be said only slightly jokingly that the United States will start as many Germans against Germany as its opponent. Starting a trend that began when Klinsmann’s coaching predecessor, Bob Bradley, persuaded Nuremberg defender Timmy Chandler and Schalke midfielder Jermaine Jones to play for the U.S. team, Klinsmann has successfully recruited German-Americans Fabian Johnson, Daniel Williams, Alfredo Morales, Terrence Boyd and Julian Green.

Johnson started for Germany against England in the 2009 European Under-21 Championship final, and Green played for Germany in three qualifiers for the 2014 European Under-19 Championship.

■ PORTUGAL (4, 25-1) — Portugal may not be much beyond Cristiano Ronaldo, but sometimes he is enough.

The winner of the Ballon d’Or as the best player in the world, Ronaldo scored all four goals in two matches that allowed Portugal to advance over Sweden in the World Cup playoffs. He even earned the applause of Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Sweden’s equally egocentric star. Add in Ronaldo’s record scoring in the Champions League and Portugal has a big weapon in the attack.

The problem is that he’s returning from an injury.

Portugal also should be feeling more at home in Brazil than its opponents. Portuguese explorers were the first Europeans to set foot in Brazil and Portugal ran Brazil as a colony. The two countries share the language, and Portugal should have plenty of local supporters.

GROUP H

With Belgium, Russia, South Korea and Algeria, don’t expect too much pre-World Cup hype from Group H.

But don’t kiss it off as irrelevant. With Belgium players Vincent Kompany and Eden Hazard and Russia coach Fabio Capello, the group shouldn’t be disregarded.

■ RUSSIA (19, 80-1) — Russia will organize the next World Cup, has financial clout and has attracted some of the best coaches in the world to rekindle the glory days of its 1960 European Nations Cup success, when the Soviet Union won the inaugural continental competition.

Dutch coaches Guus Hiddink and Dick Advocaat came and went, both stopping short of the full international recognition Russia craved. Somehow, a nation of 142 million people with a long football tradition finds it incredibly tough to be a contender.

Now it is up to Fabio Capello.

The Italian coach got Russia to Brazil by winning a group which included Portugal, and that has given him enough confidence to keep his eye on the second round.

■ BELGIUM (11, 20-1) — Belgium coach Marc Wilmots is also already looking beyond the first round.

The Red Devils might still be too young to reap the rewards of their talent, but there will be no waiting once they get to Brazil.

Perhaps the most exciting player of the group is Eden Hazard. The playmaker has seen his stock rise during a standout season with Chelsea, and an easy first-round group can do wonders for a player looking for recognition on the biggest stage.

Belgium starts out against Algeria and a solid performance against a team which likely will throw everything back in defense could quickly turn Hazard into a big name, with momentum going his way.

■ ALGERIA (22, 2,000-1) — Four years ago, Algeria held England to a scoreless draw but still went out in the group stage. Looking further back, 1982 should provide even more inspiration.

Algeria beat West Germany in its opening World Cup game, but a controversial result later in the round contrived to eliminate the north Africans. The bitterness of that experience remains, and every Algerian fan knows the team is still out for revenge.

■ SOUTH KOREA (57, 300-1) — South Korea has qualified for the last eight World Cups, and it has a reminder of its glory days in coach Hong Myung-Bo, who was a star for the South Korean squad that made an impressive run to the semifinals of the 2002 World Cup.

But this young squad struggled in qualifying and just squeaked past Uzbekistan to make it to Brazil. Its top players are Son Heung-min, who plays for Bayer Leverkusen, and Park Chu Young, of Arsenal.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:24 pm    Post subject: Opening Game Brazil V Croatia

I like this game to be a draw, which last time I looked was going at about a 4-1 price depending on where you look. it would be the ideal result for both sides and would put both in the drivers seat to advance. Assuming both Brazil and Croatia beat Cameroon, Mexico would have to beat Cameroon tomorrow then either draw both games against Brazil and Croatia or beat one of them to advance, a highly unlikely senario.

That said it wouldn't stun me if Croatia won this game as they have plenty of offence and if Brazil comes out playing tight in front of the home fans the Croats might be able to steal this one.

To me the draw is the much safer value play here, but if you have a few shackles that you can afford to lose, put it on Croatia to win and you will get a great price.

The Pick: Brazil V Croatia - Draw +465

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:42 pm    Post subject: Picks for Friday June 13th

If the standard of officiating is to be what we saw yesterday, you would be better off looking elsewhere rather than betting on World Cup games as the refs rather than the players will decide most games. That said I know some of you will anyway so here we go.

Mexico v Cameroon - Mexico Win -101 The Mexicans have issues in the midfield, but should still have enough to dispose of a Cameroon side wracked with infighting.

Spain v Netherlands - Draw +432 This game will be played very close to the vest, not unlike most of the game we saw yesterday. A draw would be the ideal result for these two teams for the same reasons I said yesterdays game would be a draw, and I think it would have been had the referee not intervened.

Chile V Australia - Chile Win -257 Although the Chileans have issues defending, it won't matter against a very young, inexeperienced Aussie team that is here basically to get experience for the next go around in Russia in 2018.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Well, on the honor system I won a fixed match yesterday with Brazil -1 -211 and Mexico vs Cameroon U2 -110

So I will post a 2-0 record +4 units and my unit is $1000 for the World Cup.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Spain vs Netherlands is a very interesting match-up Again! Spain who has captured World and Euro Cup over and over but I am taking Netherlands +.5 +108
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:35 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 14th

4 Games today:

Columbia V Greece - Columbia win -131 Columbia loves to attack and score while Greece would prefer to win games without scoring goals if that were possible. Even though they actually have added some offence this time around, they don't have enough to keep pace with a Columbian side playiing almost at home and that won't take the foot off of the gas pedal all day.

Uruguay v Costa Rica - Uruguay win -297 Like the game above we have an agressive South American club playing almost at home against a minnow of the group. Uruguay does not have the offence of Columbia, but they have enough to deal with a Costa Rican side that is overmatched in this group.

England V Italy - Italy win +161 Italy shouldn't have any problems here as long as they maintain discipline (that means you Balotelli) and doesn't get suckerd in to a very phyiscal game. With their new attacking style they should have more than enough to deal with an English side that is in transition and looking toward 2018 in Russia. They do have a lot of young talent for which this time's experience will bode well down the road, and they will likely be a little better than most think, but this is not about the here and now but about the future for England.

Ivory Coast v Japan - Japan win +171 The Japanese are very fast and attack with gusto, which will be a problem for the Ivory Coast back four, which are older and not the most athletic. Yes the Coasters can score goals, and will have a size advantage when they are on the attack, but I am not convinced at this point that they can keep pace with the Japanese for 90 minutes.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:54 am    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:56 am    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Japan/Ivory Coast OVER 2 for me...also Over 2&2.5

Small on Over 3 +212 and Over 4 +610
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:27 am    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

My Sunday plays.

Switzerland +140 Jun 15/14@12:00p

Match Result & Both Teams To Score
Switzerland & No 13/5 Jun 15/14@12:00p

France -1½ (+110) Jun 15/14@03:00p
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:11 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 15th

Switzerland v Ecuador - Draw +232 Neither side has a lot in the way of scoring punch at a World Cup that has featured a lot of goals thus far. On paper the Swiss are the better side but that only helps so much when you are known for defence and you are playing in the other team's backyard so to speak. That advantage for Ecuador will be agumented by the team playing with added emotion to begin with as they play for their late teammate and key striker Benitez who passed away from a heart attack during qualifying. It wouldn't stun me of Ecuador stole this game, but i feel the draw is the better value play.

France v Honduras - Honduras win +1000 If this game were in Europe it would almost be a no-brainer pick the other way, but I cannot trust France based on current form playing almost in the Hondurans back yard. Honduras for me is the 2nd best team in this group and could easliy steal this if France isn't in top form.

Argentina v Bosnia and Herzegovian - Argentina win -272 I don't like the price here, but there really is no choice as Argentina is head and shoulders better than anyone else in this group. Bosnia's strength is its offence and goalkeeping, but Argentina has way too muxh depth and experience for them to handle.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

My Record so far: 4-4 and down 1.36 units
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

My Monday plays.

Germany vs Portugal - First Goalscorer
(3022) Cristiano Ronaldo 4/1 Jun 16/14@11:00a

Germany vs Portugal - Anytime Goalscorer
(3065) Cristiano Ronaldo 1/1 Jun 16/14@11:00a

Germany vs Portugal - Match Result & Both Teams To Score
(3044) Germany & Yes 11/4 Jun 16/14@11:00a

Iran vs Nigeria - Match Result & Over/Under 2.5 Goals
(4054) Nigeria & Under 2.5 13/4 Jun 16/14@02:00p

Ghana vs USA - Highest Scoring Half
(5096) 2nd Half +105 Jun 16/14@05:00p
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:06 am    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 16th

Germany v Portugal - Germany win -136 Since this tourney has proven draw proof thus far I have to take the Germans on depth in this one.

Iran v Nigeria - Nigeria win -136 Although Nigeria isn't what they were in previous tournaments, you have to like them against the minnows Iran.

Ghana v USA - Ghana win +138 I really wanted to to take this as a draw but since the tourney seemingly is draw proof I will take the Africans on depth. The have a core group of Serie A regulars which will be enough to get them past a young, plucky US team.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

My Tuesday plays.

Brazil vs Mexico - Total Mexico Goals Over/Under 0.5 Goals
Over ½ (-115) Jun 17/14@03:00p

Brazil vs Mexico - Correct Score
(1022) Draw 2-2 22/1 Jun 17/14@03:00p
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:26 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 17th

Belgium v Algeria: Belgium win -375 Not much need for discussion here, the Europeans, should handle the Africans with little problem.

Brazil V Mexico: Brazil win -360 Mexico can be awkward to play against if they lay back and try to counterattack but I believe that Brazil just has too much depth and class for the North Americans to deal with. The draw is a better value play, but with the tournament thus far seemingly predisposed against draws(Yesterdays abomination of a game between Iran and Nigeria notwidthstanding), I can't pull the trigger on it.

Russia V South Korea: Russia win -154 The Koreans, like the Japanese, the Koreans can run forever and play with an attacking style. Their speed might bother an experienced but older Russian side looking for redemption after a poor showing in South Africa. The Koreans will attack relentlessly and the Russians will defend stoutly and look to counter attack. In the end the Koreans overaggressiveness will come back to haunt them.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:17 am    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Full game.
Netherlands -1½ (-165) Jun 18/14

Half time correct score.
Netherlands 2-0 (+400)

Player to score 1st and the Correct Score.
Robin van Persie & Netherlands 3-0 (+1800)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:19 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 18th

Australia v Netherlands Netherlands win -428
Spain v Chile Chile win +523
Cameroon v Croatia Croatia win -171

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:26 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 19th

Columbia v Ivory Coast Columbia win -111 Although Ivory Coast was able to beat Japan, they were fortunate to do so, in reality they didn't show much more than the other African sides, which have been a disappointment thus far. Columbia will attack in waves and will have the support of the locals. They are not as good as they looked against an inept Greek side, but they will have enough to deal with the Africans.

Uruguay v England Uruguay win +286. Although they were ambushed by a Costa Rican side that had everything go their way, look for Uruguay to bounce back against an English side that looked better than expected, still fell to an young, inexperiened Italian team that was there for the taking. Uruguay will also have the support of the locals.

Japan V Greece Japan win +113 The Japanese were unlucky not to at least get a draw with Ivory Coast, and their attacking style will serve them well against a Greek side that doesn't seem to have any offence.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 2014 World Cup Thread

Colombia vs. Ivory Coast
Draw +250 Jun 19/14@12:00p

England -110 Jun 19/14@03:00p

Japan vs. Greece
Over 2½ (+120) Jun 19/14@06:00p
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:01 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 20th

Italy v Costa Rica - Italy win -224 Not much of a decision here, surprised the line isn't higher..

Switzerland V France - France win -139 The French look better than expected, but part of that may have been what the Hondurans didn't doas much as what the French did.

Honduras v Ecuador - Honduras win +480 Like the Uruguayans yesterady, look for a much better preformance from the Hondurans.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 2:03 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 21st

Argentina V Iran - Argentina Win -654 At this price only high rollers should consider this play but I can't see any other result. Argentina's reserves could proably beat Iran.

Germany V Ghana - Germany Win -375 See above subbing Germany for Argentina

Nigeria v Bosnia-Herzegovina - Bosnia Win -116 Nigeria looked awful in drawing with Iran and the talent level isn't nearly what I thought. Unlike some other teams they appear to be too young and inexperienced to bounce back in their second game. Bosnia hung right with Argentina last time out and should have more than enough to deal with the Africans.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 4:23 pm    Post subject: World CuP Picks June 22nd

Russia V Belgium Russia win +332 Russia needs this after a draw with the Koreans, the Belgians not so much with a wim already in their pockets.

Algeria V S Korea S.Korea win +140 The Koreans speed gave Russia all kinds of fits, and I would look for more of the same today, as the Algerians are even less equipped than the Russian to deal with it.

Portugal V USA USA Win +271 As bad as Portugal looked in game one and with Ronaldo on the limp I can't trust them against a plucky US squad that will be playing with nothing to loose.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:49 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 23rd

Netherlands v Chile - Draw +263 Without Robin Van Persie, who must miss the game due to yellow cards, the Dutch will be in tough against a Chile team that will not take its foot off of the gas. A Chile win wouldn't be a bad play, but I like the draw here as both teams are already through to the round of 16 and might be as concerned with not getting anyone hurt as they are with winning the game.

Australia V Spain - Australia win +445 Reaching a little here, but hard to read what the Spainish mindset is here. They could come out and try to blow the Aussies off of the pitch to salvage some pride or they could just mail it in knowing they are going home in disgrace regardless. You know that the Aussies are going to come out flying and try to get a notch in their belt looking ahead to Russia in 2018, but without Cahill because of yellow cards someone else must step up to score.

Cameroon V Brazil - Brazil win -708 The Brazilians need to come out and smash Cameroon to assure themselves of winning the group. Cameroon has looked like a shell of the team they were in Finals past. Hate the price but no real options here as Brazil will make no mistakes.

Croatia V Mexico Mexico win +155 Mexico needs a win to advance and could steal the group in the unlikely scenario Brazil stumbles and Mexico wins big. Not that the Mexicans were going to take the foot off of the gas anyway. The Croats need a win to advance and if Brazil draws could steal the group as well. Given Mexico held Brazil to a 0-0 draw while Croatia fell 3-1 on opening day, I like Mexico to come through.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:07 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 24th

Costa Rica v England - Draw +306 Costa Rica nothing to play for, England disinterested, don't want to play negative odds on them, draw good value

Italy V Uruguay - Italy win +145 The Italians get it done on youth and depth of talent against a game Uruguay side.

Japan V Columbia - Columbia win -116 The Columbians take care of a very disappointing Japanese side.

Greece v Ivory Coast - Ivory Coast win -130 Greece doesn't score goals, Ivory Coast does. End of story.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:58 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 25th

Nigeria V Argentina Argentina win -231 The Argentines have way too much class for a Nigerian squad that couldn't beat Iran and didn't deserve to beat Bosnia.

Bosnia-Herzegovina V Iran Iran win +278 The noon heat won't bother the Iranians, who have proven that they can defend with anybody and should have beaten Nigeria.

Honduras V Switzerland Honduras win +610 Like the Iranians the heat will not affect the Hondurans but will the Swiss, who showed V France that they have issues defending...this could be a shootout.

Ecuador V France - Ecuador win +500 France is already locked into first on goal differential, so they won't be going at full speed today. The Ecuadorians, like the Iranians, have shown that they can defend very well, and with the French disinterested they should be able to steal this one.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:35 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 26th

Portugal v Ghana - Ghana win +203 Ghana is a good value play here against a Portugese side in something of disarray and with Ronaldo on the limp. Especially considering they held Germany to a draw.

USA V Germany - Germany win -154 No reason for the Germans to take the foot off of the gas here, as they want the first place slot in the group for the next round of the tournament. USA has been a pleasant surprise, but this young group isn't quite ready for this stage.

South Korea V Belgium - Belgium win -165 The Koreans have been a disappointment this time around, no reason to think that will change against the Belgians.

Algeria v Russia - The Algerians have been one of the biggest surprises of the tournament thus far, and that won't change against the hugely disappointing Russians, who have flopped after looking impressive in qualifying.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:24 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 28th

Brazil v Chile Brazil win -226 Although Chile has enough offence to possibly give Brazil a scare, it would be a stunner if they actually pulled off the upset.

Columbia V Uruguay Columbia win +105 This could very well be a wild one, but with Suarez suspended I don`t see the Uruguans having enough to handle a Columbian side that has been scoring goals in bunches.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:37 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 29th

Netherlands v Mexico Netherlands win +105 - The Mexicans will come out agressive, and the Dutch need to get though the first 15 min without conceeding, or it could be a long day for them. However with a rested Van Persie back in the lineup the overall quality of the Dutch should see them through.

Costa Rica V Greece Costa Rica win +123 - The best hope for the Cental Americans would be to get an early goal and force the Greeks to come out of their defensive shell. Failing that it could very well come down to PK's where recent form suggests whoever shoots first will win. (After yesterday, the team shooting first has won 8 of the last 9.)

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:15 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks June 30th

France V Nigeria - France win -251 France should come through easily on overall quality against a Nigerian side that seems intent on destroying itself with infighting. The wildcard here is the heat, which obviously won't bother the Africans as much as the French, but I don't think it will be enough to matter.


Germany V Algeria - Germany win -451 I hate the price on this, but it would be an all-time stunner if the Germans don't come through. Ideally the Germans would like an early goal to force the Algerians out of thier defensive shell.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 1:20 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks July 1st

Argentina V Switzerland - Argentina win -212 The Swiss can be awfully tough and disciplined but is a huge ask to take out Argentina in its own backyard. I look for something along the lines of a 2-1 game, in the end the Argentines just have too much for the Swiss to handle.

USA V Belgium - Belgium win -105 This is the game of the round that I feel least confident about. The US, with the goalkeeping of Tim Howard erasing a lot of mistakes, have a legit punchers chance to win this, but I feel that in the end the Belgians depth and experience will see them through. That said it won't surprise me much no matter which way this goes.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:50 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks July 4th

France v Germany Germany win +152 This is a tough one to call, but I think this one will go the way the tournament has trended since the end of the group stages, with experience and depth beating youth and speed.

Brazil v Columbia Brazil win -107 Like the above game, this is experience and depth vs Youth and speed, and while the Columbians have a punchers chance to win this, but Brazil will not make the mistake of looking past them in what will be a wild atmosphere.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:24 pm    Post subject: World Cup Picks July 5th

Argentina V Belgium Aegentina win -115 Argentina is a huge step up from anything Belgium has seen so far, and although Belgium is experienced, this is too big of an ask on South American soil.

Netherlands V Costa Rica - Netherlands win -224 Hard to see any other result here, for as well as the Costa Ricans defend they simply do not have the offensive chops to deal with the likes of the Dutch.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:23 pm    Post subject: World Cup Semi-final #1 Pick

Brazil v Germany Brazil win +191 Even without Neymar, I beleive that Brazil will find away to get it done at home over a pesky German side. Both teams have had issues scoring, and I feel Brazil is more likely to get untracked than the Germans at this point.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:01 pm    Post subject: World Cup Semi-final #2 Pick

Netherlands v Argentina Argentina win +151 The Argentines will have the support of the neutrals and while they might not have the better team, they have been able to come with goals when needed, unlike the Dutch who have needed penalties to advance. Give me the Argentines.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:42 pm    Post subject: World Cup Third Place Game Pick

Brazil V Netherlands Brazil win +115 This is a game that no one wants to be in and it is always hard to figure the team's mental state at this point. After Tuesday's debacle you proably think I am a fool for taking Brazil here, but I firmly believe that Brazil will be playing to erase 7-1 from people's memories and that the Dutch wlll be mentally on the plane home. Also Brazil will have its defensive leader back who was suspended due to yellow cards last game, so they will not be as vulnerable as they were on Tuesday. It all adds up to a Brazil win.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:24 am    Post subject: World Cup Final Pick

Germany v Argentina Argentina win +123 Don't be fooled by last Tuesday: The Germans have had as much trouble scoring goals as any team in the tournament, and while the Germans might have the best XI at the moment, Argentina have the world's best player in Messi who has had a wonderful tournament thus far unlike his previous World Cups. Argentina figures to be the more aggressive of the two sides as they would like nothing better than to win the World Cup on Brazilian soil. I will be curious as to what Germany does tactically here, whether they lay back and try to counter attack like almost everyone has done against Argentina or will they go on attack and engage the Argentines in a shootout, in which case there might be a lot of goals. Here's hoping we do NOT get a replay of the brutal final we saw four years ago in South Africa.

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